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The world is complex!

Monday, March 17, 2008 Sage Leave a comment Go to comments

Seeing all the financial turmoil which is happenning makes me feel that world is not as simple as we think. Old assumptions and old correlations don’t always work. Take a recent example:

When Fed cut rates for the first time in Aug/Sept, our markets did a wonderful rally. What was the reason given- excess liquidity!And now Fed is on a rate cut spree and still people are talking of “inadequate liquidity”! The same markets are viewing the “fed cuts” as negative because it means more problems are in store.

Clearly the financial markets are driven more by sentiment rather than “logic”. The Fed is trying its best to improve the sentiment but it can’t cure all the problems of bad debt. The US economy which was fueled by debt has to take it on its chin and people have to experience pain in this phase of transition. All these rate cuts shall only delay this pain but won’t eliminate it completely. The US consumer has to finally learn the importance of savings and the meaning of financial literacy. A nation can’t run on a credit card forever.

US recession is a done deal now but we need to see how the current credit market problems and a US recession impacts global economies in the coming months.

Now the problem with India is that we have heard so much of “India growth story” in the last couple of years that we refuse to consider the possibility of big slowdown! Even when IIP numbers come at mere 2%, we call it an aberration rather than trend reversal! Another example of confirmation bias.

Even when inflation is on a rise and RBI can’t cut rates, we remain optimistic about super duper growth. Even our FM tends to put all the blame on the “global sentiment”.

We can’t view the current situation through the lens of the past. Who knows things might have changed? Remember US stock markets started to fall much before all these problems came into limelight. May be the markets have a hint about the coming quarter results and are adjusting to them in advance!

Coming back to equity markets- certainly we are in a bear territory. This doesn’t rule out couple of sharp bounces but till we consolidate and move up again,it still remains very risky.

On the investment side-the world is witnessing a move to “real hard assets” like gold. With rising inflation and falling currencies, I won’t be surprised to see Gold hitting new highs in the coming times. Anybody for $2000/ounce Gold? May be I am too bullish!

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  1. sagecapital
    Monday, April 21, 2008 at 10:36 pm | #1

    Guys- I am back. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  2. Ritu
    Monday, April 7, 2008 at 10:47 am | #2

    Hi Sage, Now a days there is no change in your site’s content. Are you busy or have you changed the website. Thanks

  3. JK
    Saturday, April 5, 2008 at 12:57 pm | #3

    where is sage and other members??

  4. Roy
    Thursday, April 3, 2008 at 9:52 am | #4

    Hi Sage

    you have stopped publishing messages which shows the facts…maybe becuase going against you

    Cheers

  5. Roy
    Wednesday, April 2, 2008 at 1:01 pm | #5

    Sage !!!

    What has happened ..you have disappeared for the last 2 months. You know sometimes it gives a strange feeling to see your disappearing like those of punters who used to give buy tips every other day on their sites/ sms etc but have no place to hide after Jan crash. Dont be like them… one can still make money in this market on long/ short side as its giving enough headroom. One needs to be cautious and ride the trend. Cheers

  6. Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 10:35 pm | #6

    quote:
    Now the problem with India is that we have heard so much of “India growth story” ..

    Sounded familiar:

    http://indiaplay.blogspot.com/2008/03/where-are-growth-story-cheer-leaders.html

  7. ReyMax
    Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:07 am | #7

    CRASH ALERT !

    Sage has been missing for 4 days now.
    This market is going to tumble. This is
    a sure shot indicator.

    Enjoy the ride.

    cheers

  8. sagecapital
    Friday, March 21, 2008 at 10:12 am | #8

    Ashish- Looks like gold chose to reverse its trend when I became “super bullish” on it :-)
    So a good way to make money might be to do “opposite” of what I say!

    Google- In March 2007, the NIFTY was at 3900 levels,so people would have made atleast 20% in an year.
    Some stocks like RIL and L&T have still outperformed in this market-giving almost 80% returns.

  9. ashish ji
    Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 10:00 am | #9

    Gold 5% DOWNNNNNNN……………………………………..

  10. google
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 6:22 pm | #10

    Good to people coming back to this blog. I don’t write much, but do read this blog often.

    Sage, I entered the market around a year back. Currently I am at around 12% portfolio loss. As you might be having a good customer base, you must be having good experience over how others have fared.
    How badly burn you feel I am as per your opinion? :)

  11. sagecapital
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 4:24 pm | #11

    Moni- Sometimes this looks like a typical bear market. Sharp rallies followed by even sharper declines!

  12. sagecapital
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 3:59 pm | #12

    Rey- Lets hope the trend reverses :-)
    Seeing the fear in the markets,even I feel that we are ready for a good bounce.
    This market is falling not because of “selling” but because of “lack of buying”

  13. sagecapital
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 3:57 pm | #13

    Veera-
    In financial markets- liquidity can dry up almost immediately!
    I think thats what hap penned with Bear Stearns-clients withdrew $17 billion and people suddenly stopped doing business with them(lack of confidence).
    Just tell me what will you do if you hear rumours that your broker is going broke!
    And now imagine what will happen when all of a sudden all the customers decide to pull the plug at the same time!
    Although book value is $84, the kind of risks which are there on Bear Stearns’ balance sheet makes it only worth $2. Of course-it is a fire sale, so Bear sterns had no option!

  14. Veera
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 12:06 pm | #14

    Sage

    Do you think that CITI also has problems…

    there is news that after Bear Sterns other big investment bankers and mortgage houses are also on line….is it true?

    how can a company like Bear Stearns go for $2 per share (240mn) when its building itself is worth $??1bn

  15. moni
    Wednesday, March 19, 2008 at 10:00 am | #15

    hi sage,
    very strange..did the world not know that fed would cut rate..why such a huge rally on a day when there wasnt any global change :( on nothing that caused all the problem..?

  16. ReyMax
    Tuesday, March 18, 2008 at 6:32 pm | #16

    Sage is back and active.

    Good indicator that the trend has reversed and the market is up, at least till Sage goes on his next sabbatical.

    Buy Buy Buy and Sell only if Sage does not post the
    blog for 3 days in a row.

    cheers

  17. Rahul
    Monday, March 17, 2008 at 11:06 pm | #17

    Very beautiful article. I am scared now as I am a software engineer.

    And regarding gold when you say $2000/ounce are you serious? Are you telling this from your analysis?

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